I HAVE RETURNED THESE CONTROLLERS. I'm the other one that sold but they appear to have used the same listing to resell my return without changing the description(as of leaving this feedback). They added another quantity to resell the return I sent back. The controllers are not just 'untested' but they're random parts along with fake parts shoved into real sony cases. None of the parts work.I advise from my buying experience not buying. This was not disclosed in the listing and ebay refunded me.